HIGHCLERE PARISH COUNCIL
Minutes of a meeting held at Highclere Village Hall on Tuesday 12 September 2000
Present
Councillor Mrs S Roberts Chairman
Councillor T Farmer
Councillor I Worth
Councillor I Davidson
Councillor J Pearson
Also Present
Lady Erica Harman, Mr Ray East and Mr Ron Snipp
98/00 MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETINGS
Minutes of the meeting held on 11 July 2000 and planning meetings held on 31 July 2000 and 21 August 2000, having been circulated were taken as read, agreed by the Councillors, and signed by the Chairman.
99/00 MATTERS ARISING FROM THE ABOVE MINUTES
100/00 CORRESPONDENCE
The following correspondence has been received and copies supplied to all Councillors:
Councillors thought this should be on the agenda for the Joint Parishes meeting..
100/00 CORRESPONDENCE continued
101/00 PLANNING APPLICATIONS
The following planning applications were received and considered.
BDB48221 Plot A Westfield House, Another amendment reducing the size of the dormer windows
Objection as previously stated
All Councillors present objected to this as the new rooms overlook neighbours. It was pointed out that at an original site meeting Councillors had argued that this house be built as a four bedroom property and not a five bedroom property. This conversion would allow six bedrooms in total.
BDB48611 Orange Mast, Penwood, addition of antennae and midi cabin
No objection subject to amendment
An area 3Metres x 10Metres was proposed in addition to the existing enclosure. This would encroach on to a Foresty Commission's track. Councillor Pearson had examined the site and observed that the midi cabin could be sited within the existing enclosure, and it was felt that this should be the condition of any planning approval.
Councillors also felt that if a mast is at any time re-sited, any concrete base should be removed and the land reinstated.
BDB48759 Old Hollies, Tubbs Lane, rear single storey extension
No objection
Councillors considered the extension was well screened at the back of the property and did not affect neighbours
102/00 OTHER PLANNING MATTERS
A copy of BDBC "Housing Mix Policy Statement " was given to each Councillor It outlines BDBC policy to build more 2 bedroomed houses.
103/00 ACCOUNTS FOR YEAR END 31 MARCH 2000
The accounts were presented by the Clerk and signed by the Chairman.
103/00 ACCOUNTS FOR YEAR END 31 MARCH 2000 continued
Councillor Jim Pearson had undertaken an internal audit on behalf of the Council. Councillor Pearson pointed out that the period covered was before he was co-opted and therefore had no in-depth knowledge as to what the payments related.
104/00 ATTENDANCE AT DISTRICT MEETINGS
The AGM for HAPTC is to be held on 14 October. The agenda was passed to Councillor Jim Pearson who might attend, if, on checking his diary he did not have a prior appointment. The Clerk will attend the next quarterly Parish Liaison Meeting for Clerks, and the Chairman, Councillor Mrs Sue Roberts will attend the DAPC quarterly meeting for Councillors on 26 September.
105/00 JOINT PARISHES MEETING
The seven bordering parishes quarterly meeting is to be held at Highclere village hall on 25 October at 1930 hosted by Highclere Parish Council. In view of the many district meetings the Chairman wondered if this event continued to be useful, and it was decided to put this question to the meeting. The other Councils will be asked for their agenda items. The Clerk was asked to request Mr Tony West of BDBC Community Safety to address the meeting.
106/00 HIGHCLERE PARISH SOCIETY AGM/SOCIAL EVENING 9 OCTOBER
The Council has been invited to provide a "table top" display, and to attend this event.
Councillors agreed this was a good opportunity and a table could be set out with leaflets.
Most Councillors said they would attend.
107/00 COUNCILLORS' TRAINING DAY AT KINGSCLERE (planning and transportation) 14 OCTOBER
The Chairman, Councillor Mrs Sue Roberts and the Clerk will attend this event. Councillor Jim Pearson may possibly attend but will advise the Chairman if he is unable.
It was agreed that as there were 3 places set aside for Highclere, if Councillor Pearson had a prior appointment then a member of the Parish Society could attend.
108/00 HIGHCLERE CASTLE EVENTS
The Council had received from two parishioners, copies of correspondence from them to Lord Carnarvon and BDBC. The problems caused by traffic exiting from events at Highclere Castle on to the village roads were highlighted.
Councillor Farmer stated that the Council could not object to the use of village roads, when such use had been ordered by the police as an emergency measure. Councillor Pearson felt that the Castle should aim to be more accurate in estimates of attendance.
Council members were aware that problems had occurred and understood that they were being addressed. It was decided to keep the letters on file for reference, and monitor the situation until the renewal for the Castle's entertainment licence.
109/00 PENWOOD VILLAGE HALL
Councillor Pearson reported that the estimate for repairs to Penwood Village Hall was £8000 of which £6000 was available in the form of a grant. It was his understanding that a new lease would be granted at a rent of £2500.00 per annum. An amenities grant for 95% of this cost was currently available. The expired lease was between BDBC and Highclere Parish Council and Councillor Pearson wondered as regards any new lease if the Parish Council could act as custodian trustee for the leasehold in a similar way as it acted as custodian trustee fot the freehold of Highclere Village Hall. A new trust could be formed under which trustees held any new lease.
The Clerk enquired if Councillor Pearson had seen any draft lease as she was aware of a draft lease which was presented in 1994 for a rent of £2750.00. At that time there was a lot of correspondence and legal advice was sought. Councillor Pearson agreed to look over the correspondence.
Councillor Davidson warned against entering into a "full repairing" lease, and it was agreed that legal advice was essential.
Councillor Farmer suggested that the first step could be to seek direction from the Charity Commissioners and it was agreed that the Clerk would contact them for advice.
110/00 CRIME PREVENTION AT PENWOOD
Councillor Pearson reported that there had been a long period of calm at Penwood. Following on from the consultative meeting held in August, Mr Ray East, the Chairman of the Residents Association had organised groups of young people to tidy up the area.
It had gained momentum during the summer holidays and given them something to do.
Mr East was present at this meeting and was commended by the Councillors and asked to give a report.
THERE WAS A BRIEF ADJOURNMENT TO ALLOW MR EAST TO SPEAK
THE MEETING THEN RESUMED
110/00 CRIME PREVENTION AT PENWOOD continued
During the adjournment the committee learned that there had been an incident at Woodlands when youths had attempted to set fire to a car. The youths have been apprehended by the police. There has also been an incident at the flats for the elderly. A secure entry system at the flats for the elderly was identified as first priority and the Clerk was asked to contact Oakfern, as this Housing Association had promised action which had not materialised, nor had any correspondence been received.
Straightening the footpath between Woodlands and Heathlands looks unlikely as a neighbour has claimed that the land required is his, and he is against the proposal.
New lighting and new fencing however are to be pursued. The Chairman expressed concern that the fences were not replaced on an ad-hoc basis but that all were replaced in a single operation with the cooperation of Oakfern Housing.
There was interest amongst the young people in the idea of a youth shelter, but all residents contacted wanted it well away from their properties. It was felt that Mr East's initiative in organising the young children during the holidays could be expanded.
111/00 INCREASE NUMBER OF COUNCILLORS RESOLUTION
The Chairman, Councillor Sue Roberts proposed "That this Council formally apply to increase the numbers of Councillors to seven".
The Chairman pointed out that enquiries were made in 1998, and that BDBC had suggested two wards Highclere and Penwood.
The other Councillors agreed that a larger Council would be beneficial,
Councillor Farmer felt that the Council should first seek guidance from BDBC, and ask what were the recommended numbers of Councillors in proportion to the electorate. It was decided that the Clerk would first contact BDBC and the matter be deferred to the next meeting.
112/00 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT COUNCIL MEETINGS
The Chairman proposed that "This Parish Council, at the beginning of it's Council meetings, allows 15 minutes during which time parishioners can speak on agenda items. A parishioner being allowed a maximum of five minutes."
Councillor Tom Farmer proposed an amendment that parishioners only speak for "a maximum of three minutes".
Councillor Ian Davidson proposed a further amendment that "This Parish Council, during it's meetings, will at the Chairman's discretion permit adjournments in which parishioners can speak on the agenda items. A parishioner being allowed a maximum of three minutes."
At a show of hands the further amendment was passed.
It was therefore resolved that:
This Parish Council, during it's meetings, will at the Chairman's discretion permit adjournments in which parishioners can speak on the agenda items. A parishioner being allowed a maximum of three minutes.
113/00 PLANNING COMMITEES RESOLUTION
The Chairman proposed that "This Parish Council appoints a separate Planning Committee. It's membership being the full council plus two non-voting members of the public. It should seek to appoint an architect as one of those members."
Councillor Jim Pearson observed that if the Council membership was increased to seven there would not be a need for this committee but conceded that until that time, this would benefit the Council. He did not however feel that an architect was necessary. Other Councillors agreed that the views of an architect should not be sought.
The Chairman amended her resolution to omit the words "It should seek to appoint an architect as one of those members."
At a show of hands the amendment was passed
It was therefore resolved that:
This Parish Council appoint a separate Planning Committee. It's membership being the full council plus two non-voting members of the public.
The Clerk expressed concern that a committee consisting of the full Council was not really a committee. The Chairman replied that she had first sought guidance from HAPTC but would seek to have it reconfirmed.
114/00 FOOTPATHS RESOLUTION
The Chairman proposed that "This Parish Council appoint an advisory committee on footpaths."
There was discussion on the benefits and all members approved this proposal.
It was therefore resolved that:
This Parish Council appoint an advisory committee on footpaths.
Councillor Davidson requested a copy of the definitive footpaths map.
He asked that any decision on how such a committee was constituted be deferred until after the next meeting. The Chairman will pass all the information on "Parish Paths Partnership" to Councillor Davidson.
115/00 FOOTPATHS UPDATE
A letter has also been received from Mr Johns stating that he considered that the footpath was ok, but that the stile into the woods needed repair.
The Clerk has written to Mr Perris requesting repairs but suggesting that the council arrange for kissing gates to replace damaged gates at no cost to the farmer. However
Mrs Perris confirmed their dislike for kissing gates and the stiles have been repaired.
The Clerk has contacted the network officer, Caroline Elliot who is making enquiries regarding dedication of this footpath. This will involve searching the "sideroads order" following the building of the Newbury Bypass
116/00 STANDING ORDERS
Councillors discussed the merit of the Standing Orders, and there was some concern that debate might be stifled when a time limit was applied.
It was however acknowledged that the use of such orders could help meetings run more smoothly, and gave the Chairman better control of meetings.
117/00 COUNCILLORS' QUESTIONS
Councillor Pearson had observed that little use was made of the bus shelter at Blindman's Gate. This he considered would be better positioned by the Penwood community notice board. It was agreed to put this on the October Agenda.
Councillor Pearson expressed concern for Penwood children who walked or cycled to school. He considered a footpath/cycle way from Penwood to Wolton Hill and Highclere was needed. The Chairman reminded the Council of District Councillor Hedgeland's similar concerns and asked Councillor Pearson to Contact him for an update. It was decided to put this on the agenda for October.
Councillor Farmer expressed concern that a builder's advertising board remained on a pole at the junction of Mount Road and the Andover Road. It was believed the builders had been employed at Thorngrove school and Councillor Mrs Sue Roberts volunteered to make enquiries.
Councillor Worth reported loud music from a country and western evening at Oakley Farm on 12th August. This was understood to be a fund raising event for multiple sclerosis. He queried whether an entertainment licence was required for such an event.
The Clerk will make enquiries for future reference.
118/00 ACCOUNTS FOR PAYMENT
in between meetings
Peter Bigby , BDBC For Lease PVH,
Supplies Team, C Corrall ,
Buriton Parish Council, W Bendle,
At this meeting
Pat Clarke (wages), HCC Treasurer,
Pat Clarke (admin costs), W Bendle,
C Corrall,
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS THE MEETING WAS BROUGHT TO A CLOSE AND PARISHIONERS WERE INVITED TO PUT THEIR QUESTIONS
THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS 10TH OCTOBER.
PLANNING MEETINGS WILL BE CONVENED AS AND WHEN NECESSARY